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Involution? Foam? Change? Ten questions directly hit the core puzzle of "meta universe" – the essence of "ask ta- Wang Lei about the time of the universe"

2022-06-25 17:00:00 【Babbitt information】

6 month 24 Japan , Yuancosmos live interview program 《 ask Ta- Wangleiyuan cosmic time 》 Welcome to the first live dialogue , The theme is 《 Meta universe , Is it a super foam 》.

《 ask Ta- Wangleiyuan cosmic time 》 The host is Babbitt CEO、 Senior media person Wang Lei . The first live guest is the president of Yibao payment 、 Bestsellers 《 See the future ： People who change the Internet world 》、《 Meta cosmic pass 》 Author Yu Chen .

In a 1 Hours of conversation , The topic involves the grand problem of the future development of the meta universe , There are also practical problems such as how entrepreneurs can survive in the unpredictable market .

There are frequent golden sentences on the scene , We recorded some wonderful points , The following is a refined version of the dialogue .

Wang lei ： You have written a book about Internet observation 《 See the future 》, In the meta universe , What kind of future do you see ？

The rest of the morning ：

From the perspective of history , The long-term impact of technological change , No matter good or bad , Its development will go far beyond the original intention and imagination of the inventor . The future of the metauniverse is definitely not just what many people see today , The possibility of its future is far beyond our imagination . Like in the past 20 year , Great changes have taken place in the connotation and extension of the Internet .

today , The metauniverse is still in its infancy , We must first embrace its future possibilities with an open mind , We don't have to worry about its definition , Because its future is not what we can imagine today .

The best way to predict the future is to create it , With optimism 、 A positive attitude turns the metauniverse into what we want it to be , Make it a self fulfilling prophecy .

Wang lei ： Some people say , Blockchain is the core of the metauniverse 、 The most indispensable technology , What do you think of this view ？

The rest of the morning ：

The metauniverse integrates many different underlying technologies , Front end oriented AR、VR, Back end oriented AI、 Block chain, etc. .

AR、VR Make the metauniverse look more gorgeous 、 More sexy , Blockchain and NFT Is the real support behind the meta universe . Only when any society and civilization have an economic foundation can it determine its organizational and cultural superstructure , Blockchain 、NFT Technology is the economic infrastructure of the meta universe .

Wang lei ： Everybody's talking about it “ Internal volume ”, And then place the hope of breaking through the internal volume on the increment brought by the technological breakthrough , Does the metauniverse have this value ？

The rest of the morning ：

Involution refers to the vicious internal competition after a certain culture or market model has developed to a certain extent , Evolved into a zero sum game . The history of science and technology shows that , The technological revolution is all about creating new demands , Open up incremental markets , Expand new value space , To break through the involution .

The primordial universe brings a kind of people in “ Value recognition ” This conceptual change , More people believe that the assets of the digital world are more valuable than those of the physical world .

There is a contradiction between the growing demand in the real world and the limited resources . And the virtual assets in the meta universe , Whether it is virtual land or other digital products , In principle, it can be developed indefinitely 、 Infinite superposition .

The greatest significance of the yuan universe to the whole society and the market , It can bring us new requirements and new incremental space , It is an engine of economic growth .

Wang lei ： What is the meme propagation of the metauniverse ？ Why is it important for the future of mankind ？

The rest of the morning ：

Memetic English meme And English gene gene Rhyme , It can be understood as culture gene or thought gene . As an animal, human instinct is to spread biological genes , At the same time, it will also spread its own cultural genes —— Meme . Internet buzzwords 、 fashion 、 Popular products 、 Theory 、 Religious beliefs …… Can be regarded as memes .

Every new technological development , In particular, media related technologies , Have changed the way memes propagate . Many people say that the Internet economy is a meme economy , The essence of the Internet is the superconductor of meme propagation .

Web1.0 The majority of users in this era passively accept 、 Copy memes .Web2.0 Let everyone consume memes , It can also produce memes and influence the world by spreading memes .Web3.0 People can not only read and write , Technical mechanisms can also be used ——NFT, To confirm the ownership and value of memes , Drive real “ Meme economy ”.

Web3.0 It will surely bring a liberation of culture and creative imagination .

Wang lei ： Human beings will spend more and more time in the virtual world in the future , Once in this state , Will it cause other problems ？ For example, many young people will escape from the real world ？

The rest of the morning ：

Herali, the author of a brief history of mankind, said , People are born to live in double reality , On the one hand, the physical world corresponding to mountains and rivers , The other is the spiritual world .2000 The fictional world constructed by ancient dramatic art years ago is the same as the meta universe .

The conflict between the fictional world and the real world brought about by new technology is real . But the solution is certainly not simply to turn off the virtual world , But how to find a balance between the virtual and the real .

Man as a higher animal , We have to go beyond the reality in various ways , art 、 religious 、 A pipe dream …… Then there is the meta universe . We are all pursuing 、 Imagine a spiritual world outside the physical world , This is the bottom power of civilization progress .

Stephen, a contemporary thinker · Pinker said that the development of human history has been changing from reality to emptiness , The proportion of non-material production and life is increasing . What most people create today is not a material product , But spiritual products . The meta universe is just a historical trend that human beings go down from reality to emptiness .

Shaan, the leader of American science and technology ・ Prie said , The meta universe is not a space concept , But the concept of time , It represents a moment in the development of human history , After this moment , Most people will think that the digital virtual world is more valuable than the physical real world , More people's assets 、 Time will enter the virtual world .

Wang lei ： Recently, the global economy has ushered in an uncertain cycle ,Meta The stock price of such meta universe concept stocks has been 4 The sky fell 40%, This has caused controversy , Is the metauniverse a super foam ？

The rest of the morning ：

The primordial universe must be accompanied by a huge foam . But all great technological innovations are accompanied by huge foam , Three industrial revolutions 、 Internet revolution , Is so .

When the new business paradigm 、 When the technological revolution occurs , People's over imagination of the future , Greed for wealth , It will burst out in a short time , A foam is inevitable . From the perspective of capital, it is a huge foam , Look a little longer , It is precisely the financial foam that has brought a lot of funds to the infrastructure construction in the technological transformation . The key is whether something of real value can be deposited after the foam burst .

Wang lei ： The process of metacosmic de foam , What impact will it have on the entrepreneurship and innovation of the meta universe industry ？

The rest of the morning ：

When the bubble burst , After falling to the bottom , Can really provide value , People who bring innovation , He will stay in the market , Slowly make the market really , Then the technology really enters the so-called mature period . For innovators, you have to be confident , Have endurance , As long as you insist on , Blue chip projects must be valuable , It can find the explosive point of technology maturity , So the long-term mentality is very important .

Wang lei ： Musk doesn't seem very optimistic about the metauniverse , He said that we may just live in a virtual world simulated by a computer , This is a bit of a brain opening , What do you think ？

The rest of the morning ：

Musk believes that artificial intelligence may pose a serious threat to human survival in the future , Zuckerberg believes AI It can certainly be used to benefit mankind . Musk thinks we should explore the real universe , Zuckerberg thinks that virtual reality is a beautiful new world , The two of them have always been antagonistic 、 Conflicting .

There is no contradiction between exploring the metauniverse and exploring outer space . The Milky way has about 1000 Hundred million perseverance , There are about in the brain 1000 Billion neurons . In fact, it is because we have thought , To give us the ability to conquer the external nature , With inner awakening , Will have the power to explore the sea of stars .

Musk said that we may live in a virtual world simulated by aliens or future humans , This is very similar to the concept of the meta universe of the matrix , A philosopher at Oxford University also used a paper to explain .

The idea itself is wide open , I also like , But you have to ask me if I believe , I don't think the probability is tenable .

Wang lei ： These two years , The gap between the market value of Internet companies in China and the United States is widening , At the metauniverse track , The gap between us and the United States 、 What are the main differences ？

The rest of the morning ：

The Chinese market has several advantages ： The population base is large , The advantage of market scale is large , It gives room for many new opportunities . Of course, China has a lot of technical talents . From an analyst's point of view , The successful companies born in the field of science and technology in China in the past few decades are mainly at the application level , At the innovation level of the business model .

Silicon Valley , The advantages of their technology companies are reflected in the core and basic hard technology . Many of the underlying core technologies were proposed by the United States and held in their hands . For the development of market or technology , Asking questions is more important than providing answers , The past few decades , The United States has been guiding the definition of the problem , Making market rules , Leading the topic , Control the whole field .

We often use light bulbs to represent inspiration and creativity , incorrect , You should use a coffee shop . New ideas in Silicon Valley , New ideas don't come out of someone's head , It was a group of people who discussed it in a coffee shop . We used to exaggerate people 、 hero , But a A truly creative place , It depends on the soil , It depends on the free circulation and collision of ideas .

So we really need an open environment , It can provide sustainable creativity . This is due to the historical and cultural limitations of China , Where we need to keep up with Silicon Valley .

in addition , Chinese traditional culture puts more emphasis on pragmatism , When we talk about technology , Think more about what value technology will bring to us . Silicon Valley is, of course, the commercialization of technology 、 A very practical case , But behind Silicon Valley, there is basic research from universities , Many of its basic researches are simply for the sake of knowledge itself and human curiosity , This is what we lack .

Wang lei ： Some people say that musk has a powerful reality distortion aura , You will believe that he can turn the unreality into reality . Did you feel this reality distortion when you interviewed him ？ Is this an element we need very much in the innovation of the meta universe today ？

The rest of the morning ：

Jobs has great personal charm , Charismatic , But musk was an engineer , At least stand in front of him , He doesn't seem to have the charisma and aura of Steve Jobs .

When people emphasize the distortion of reality, they often misunderstand it as how bold and productive adults are , Open your imagination . But Musk's first quality as an engineer is to be able to think logically , Musk often talks about the first principle , When he is thinking about an idea or innovation , First think about what is impossible , Then you can think about what is possible . Even if you have imagination , Have the ability again , You can't make a perpetual motion machine . Imagination doesn't mean that you can break logic and think , It means that you are following the logic 、 How far to push imagination on a reasonable basis .

I think many of us lack this kind of engineering quality , We can shoot illogical scenes like tearing up devils when making movies .

What musk shows us is the advantages of being an engineer , Instead of being a pure market person , This advantage is often overlooked by most people .

Wang Lei ends ：

As long as you have dry goods , You have deep thoughts on the metauniverse industry , Or you have a variety of practices , You can contact us , I am very willing to have a dialogue with such an elite in the meta universe industry . I said I was just a person responsible for asking questions , I hope to ask questions in an objective and neutral way , Let the guests produce wonderful views