Dialogue with Wang Wenyu, co-founder of ppio: integrate edge computing resources and explore more audio and video service scenarios

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Editor's note ： Wang Wenyu ：“PPIO The mission of edge cloud is to gather global computing resources , And serve the world .” This is a PPIO Marginal cloud CEO Wang Wenyu last year LiveVedioStackCon Wonderful speech of Beijing railway station , Nearly a year later , At the upcoming LiveVedioStackCon 2022 Shanghai Station , Wangwenyu will attend as a guest again and bring about “ Focusing audio and video bottom Technology , Explore the metauniverse ‘ The moon landing project ’ ” The share of .LiveVideoStack I have the honor to interview Wang Wenyu before the Conference , It also discusses how to view the current development of edge computing technology and market , And shared PPIO Services currently provided by edge cloud 、 Focus of attention and future planning in the audio and video industry .

Wang Wenyu ,PPIO Marginal cloud CEO& cofounder , On 2004 Year of participation PPTV The foundation of ,2008 During his postgraduate study in Huazhong University of science and technology, he suspended school and continued to start a business . As a founding team member and chief architect , Start with the first line of code PPTV, Experienced many technical architecture refactoring and PP Creation of video cloud services , Until it was acquired by Suning cloud merchants .

2014-2018 During the year , As the co-founder of Jidou Internet of vehicles, I started my second business , During this period, he led the research and development of China's first vehicle mounted intelligent system ： Polar bean OS, As well as a series of train specification level software and hardware technology breakthrough , And won excellent places in the driverless competition in the global automotive industry , Products have served Audi 、 BMW 、 Mercedes Benz and other internationally renowned car factories .

2018 year , Heyuan PPTV Founder Yao Xin co founded PPIO, Start a third business . Uphold “ Gather global computing resources ” The mission of , Edge cloud computing services built on the infrastructure at the edge of the network . 

As a leading independent edge cloud service provider in China ,PPIO Edge clouds are all over the country 30 Multiple provinces , exceed 1000 Many counties, cities and regions provide customers with low delay 、 High bandwidth 、 Edge cloud computing services and solutions for massive data distribution processing needs .PPIO Edge cloud is the sinking of cloud computing power from the central cloud to the edge , At the same time, the architecture is based on the edge cloud native technology , It can realize compatible collaboration with traditional central cloud , And has become a number of Internet giants 、 First tier cloud computing service provider 、 Unicorn class startups are the main partners in the field of edge cloud services .

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LiveVideoStack： Teacher wang , Hello! . What is your focus of work in the first half of the year ？ Do you have any personal challenges ？ 

Wang Wenyu ： In the first half of the year, I mainly did two things , First, continue to polish the products and technologies of edge cloud internally , Serve customers well , Another is to think about the new scenario of the future of edge cloud , New technology direction . Personally, the biggest challenge for me is that there are a lot of new technologies to learn , I feel that there is not enough time .

LiveVideoStack： So what is your recent focus on technology ？

Wang Wenyu ： Recently, I pay more attention to some new future technologies related to edge computing , The new back-end architecture and development concept brought by cloud native , also Web 3.0 Related concepts and technologies . besides , Recently, I am still studying Metaverse Metauniverse may bring about technological changes in the field of audio and video , These are likely to be PPIO The future technological development route , Also this time I will be in LiveVideoStackCon The theme shared by Shanghai station , How to realize the metauniverse in a short time , We need to start from the underlying technology , Find a breakthrough in the content ecosystem .

LiveVideoStack： according to the understanding of , You have three entrepreneurial experiences , from PPTV To PPIO It's all about audio and video , What are the similarities and differences between the two ？PPIO What is the focus of edge cloud ？

Wang Wenyu ： from PPTV To PPIO, The relationship between the two is still very close , The same thing is that both of them are very stressed video technology , In addition, the number of users of the final service is very large .

Of course , There are also differences between the two ：

1. PPTV yes To C Of App, and PPIO yes To B The edge cloud , Because I did before To C App My entrepreneurial experience , So now we can better understand the needs of audio and video enterprises .

2. PPTV It's a media company , To collect 、 Ed 、 Broadcast as the core , and PPIO It's a technology company , Pay more attention to the depth and sustainability of Technology .

3. Imagine something similar , But times are different . Before PPTV It's from P2P Live broadcasting technology started ,P2P The essence of technology is to use the idle bandwidth of users ;PPIO The mission of “ Gather global computing resources , And provide services to the world ”, Its essence is to integrate resources , however PPIO What is integrated is idle high-quality edge resources , Not users APP End resources .

The difference in PPTV,PPIO The focus is ： Integrate various types of edge computing , Make the cloud computing capacity sink from the central cloud to the edge , At the same time, the architecture is based on the edge cloud native technology , It can realize compatible collaboration with traditional central cloud , To meet the current and future application scenarios with low latency requirements , Especially in the field of audio and video .

LiveVideoStack： In the current context of light end and heavy cloud ,PPIO How does edge cloud cope with this trend in terms of Technology ？

Wang Wenyu ： I agree with the direction of light end and heavy cloud ,PPIO Edge cloud is the same idea at the beginning , The expanded and integrated computing nodes are nodes close to the edge , It can be understood as the operator's metropolitan area network （ Convergence layer ） And access layer nodes , Instead of integrating household equipment .

future PPIO Will also continue to adhere to this line , Build edge cloud computing services on the infrastructure at the edge of the network , Give developers a convenient way to use , Use it like a cloud .

LiveVideoStack： In terms of edge computing ,PPIO What are the current challenges facing the edge cloud ？ How to deal with it ？

Wang Wenyu ： Our positioning of edge computing , It is a development path with the development of nodes in lower level cities, districts and counties as the core , The biggest feature of edge nodes is non-standard and heterogeneous , Embodied in multiple dimensions , Such as ： The machine room is heterogeneous 、 Network heterogeneity 、 Machines are heterogeneous . How to integrate and make full use of the computing power of these resources , Is a very challenging thing .

Regarding this , We mainly face the characteristics of non-standard isomerism through three core technologies ：

1.  [email protected]： The standard open cloud native technology and ability to realize the arrangement of resources after the edge .PPIO Based on the current mainstream container engine K8S, Innovation has been made in the field of edge cloud , Improve the flexible management ability of resources , Achieve the ultimate efficiency . 

2. [email protected]： Innovation of service edge cloud distributed node scenario Overlay Network service framework .PPIO Abandon the tree structure used in traditional networks , Reference service grid （Service Mesh） Ideas , Provide service-oriented point-to-point discovery 、 Routing and stable communication capability , Implement monitoring and early warning in parallel 、 Flow prediction, etc . During the operation of the task , Once a node is found to have a problem , It will optimize the path , Find the most suitable path to support or ease , Thus ensuring the smoothness of cloud collaboration , And high-quality network services .

3.  [email protected]： Cloud edge Intelligent Collaboration Scheme upgrades traditional automated operation and maintenance , Better adapt to the edge computing environment .PPIO To the traditional DevOps Intelligent transformation of the scheme , Use improved Boosting Model , Space time prediction of business demand fluctuations , According to the demand forecast results and different customers SLA Grade , utilize EdgeMatrix Framework for business scheduling optimization , And combine [email protected] Carry out operation and maintenance deployment , Greatly improve the product delivery quality and operation and maintenance efficiency in the edge computing scenario , And the resource utilization of edge nodes is improved .

LiveVideoStack： stay PPIO In the process of building decentralized distributed cloud services in the edge cloud , What are the main target customers ？ What scenarios and fields are involved ？

Wang Wenyu ： The target customers we serve , Mainly in the field of audio and video , The scenes involved have large-scale live broadcasts 、 Live broadcast with low delay 、 video on demand ; In the field of Pan audio and video , The scenes involved are cloud Games 、 Cloud rendering, etc ; besides , There are other areas of cloud security 、 Application performance management and other businesses .

Current audio and video live or on demand 、 Cloud security and other existing scenarios can be achieved by lowering data processing from the center to the edge , It can avoid the impact of large-scale traffic on the central network , And greatly reduce the data transmission cost and network delay , This will be PPIO The current main target market .

Most of the leading audio and video manufacturers in the market are our customers , meanwhile PPIO Also for many Internet giants 、 First tier cloud computing service provider 、 Unicorn class startups offer low latency 、 High bandwidth 、 Edge cloud computing services and solutions for massive data distribution processing needs .

PPIO Will firmly invest in the construction of edge computing platform , Actively gather and integrate various computing resources , And actively match and develop customers in various scenarios , Especially in the field of audio and video . Because from the first principle , In the future, audio and video applications will pay more and more attention to low latency , Only by putting the service node on the edge can we better meet the needs of future audio and video applications .

LiveVideoStack： From technology to product solutions , How do you judge the market demand in the whole process of final delivery to customers , And how to meet customer needs ？

Wang Wenyu ： At present, edge computing is still in its early stage , At the node from technology to solution , And gradually precipitate into products . The characteristic of this stage is that a small number of customers begin to use , Customers' own understanding will bring differences in various needs , These differences in requirements will lead to various customized scenarios , So as to form various types of solutions .

My methods of judging market demand mainly focus on several points ：

1. Is it suitable for PPIO Edge cloud to do ： That is, we need to look at the long-term demand , Whether there is a need to sink into the demand of metropolitan area network and access network . If not satisfied , Sooner or later, this kind of demand will be the dish of the big public cloud , It doesn't belong to us .

2. How big is the amount , Only this kind of demand is large enough , To achieve border cost reduction .

3. How fast is the growth , There is only incremental demand that continues to grow , Is more in line with the edge cloud .

LiveVideoStack：PPIO What is the current financing situation of edge cloud ？ What is the future development plan ？

Wang Wenyu ：PPIO The edge cloud is 5 Month has been announced A round 2.5 One hundred million yuan financing , The accumulated amount of financing exceeds 4 One hundred million yuan , The current round of financing funds are mainly used for the investment and construction of self-developed technologies and edge side infrastructure , And live broadcast with ultra-low delay 、 Cloud games 、 Cloud rendering 、 Car networking 、 Space digitization and other scenarios that require improvement of ultra-low delay .

future ,PPIO The expansion of business scenarios will follow “ put new wine into old bottles ” To “ New bottles, new wine ” Principles , Start with audio and video 、 Cost reduction and efficiency improvement of traditional scenarios such as cloud security “ Old bottle ” set out , Gradually expand to the Internet of vehicles 、 The Internet of things 、 Number twins, etc “ New bottles ”, And if the new bottle of edge cloud wants to change from the old bottle to the new bottle , First, the company needs to be more standardized in the underlying architecture 、 bouncy , Secondly, the company needs to improve the coverage and density of infrastructure .

LiveVideoStack： I'm glad you can participate again LiveVideoStackCon Shanghai station and bring you sharing , What wonderful content will you share this time , Can I give you a spoiler in advance ？

Wang Wenyu ： The first two times LiveVideoStackCon It's all about sharing and comparing infra 、 Hard core technology , And this time I want to talk about the future technological development , Mainly from Facebook Last year it was renamed Meta, Officially put forward Metaverse The strategy of , That is, now very hot words —— Meta universe . This time, , I want to talk about my views on the metauniverse and how to move towards the metauniverse technically . in my opinion , Metauniverse is like audio and video “ The moon landing project ”, Very far away , It's very difficult to , But human beings will eventually achieve it . And in “ Landing on the moon ” In the process of , It will also bring the development of many new technologies ,

This time I will share from VR/AR Core indicators and implementation , Cloud and edge architecture 、 codec 、 Network transmission path and other dimensions , Comprehensively analyze the audio and video technology context of the metauniverse , Discuss the changes of industrial structure in the era of meta universe , Introduce PPIO How can edge cloud use the deep reserves and first mover advantages of edge computing to provide strong infrastructure services for the metauniverse .

I'm looking forward to working in LiveVideoStackCon 2022 Shanghai station will discuss with you .

LiveVideoStack： well , Thank you for your interview , We look forward to seeing you in 8 month 5 Wonderful sharing at the Shanghai railway station Conference on the th .

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